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Chad: [00:00:00] shortly after, um, finishing school, my wife really started to struggle even more with some chronic health issues. Um, dealt with infertility, dealt with, uh, uh. A lot of fatigue and a lot of other kind of, um, hormonal type issues. And I had no idea how to help her other than we were taking her to specialists and they didn't know how to help her. And, uh, and so what wound up happening was just out of sheer frustration, we were just getting nowhere. Um, I, I, I finally just took it upon myself. Again, this wasn't...

Steven Hiscoe: [00:00:00] We were in the hallway upstairs, beside the door, but a super small hallway. It's an old building. Not a lot of space to go. So she comes out, we're right there, there's no backing away in the stairs. She had, uh, taken a knife, slid her hand and rubbed blood all over her face and was screaming.   Riley: , Today we have Steve Hisco. he is, uh, Ari who is on a previous episode, is a, is a friend in common here. So that's how, that's how Steve and [00:01:00] I met. Um, Steve is...

Miyo Strong: [00:00:00] my story of being a childhood sexual abuse survivor is not rare. It's very, very common. Um, in Utah it's one in three females will experience some sort of sexual violence in their lifetime. Yeah. Same for Idaho. One in three. um, Utah has some of the highest rates of child sexual abuse in the country. So we're in the top 5% for our numbers. So while I am here and open and sharing my story, like the chances are that the two of you know, many, many survivors is very, very high. It's just not talked...

Chad: [00:00:00] Ineffective force has the appearance of excessive force, and so people will watch something ineffective and they'll lose confidence in what they're looking at, and they'll say, oh, this is such a mess. It must've been bad. It must've been unlawful. Then it'll get evaluated on a legal standard and it'll be found that it's not unlawful. The cop could respond to whatever it is they're seeing. It becomes more of an internal issue, like the cop needs better training. He didn't violate the law, and people who don't know the law or the training just see the...